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edward
Posted - 2002/5/3 下午 12:14:05
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今天看報紙,看到教區就某些神父性侵犯男童的事件作出回應。似乎傳媒批評的焦點,都在於為何教區當局不向警方舉報犯事的神父,以及用金錢向受害者作出資助,是否有「掩口」之嫌。
請問大家對此事件有何看法呢?
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歸一
管理人員
Posted - 2002/5/3 下午 01:34:13
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如果這件事真的很受到外界重視,我第一個感覺是教會仍然有很大的影響力。或者說,大家仍然覺得教會的神聖,這可以是一件好事。
其實,如果不是孌童事件,而是揭發在過去二十七年,有三個神父高買過,大家會否輕鬆一點呢?如果是這樣,問題在哪裡呢?
另一個感覺是:我們真覺得教會是超然在社會以外,現在別人一來探究我們的問題,大家的反應就極其激烈了。這是否需要呢?
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edward
Posted - 2002/5/3 下午 04:58:15
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「Maybe the media in HK has certain ties with those in the US, or someone eventually discover this opportunity to blackmail the Church for compensation, yes, out of the pockets of every one of us.」(augustine)
奧兄的說法有點陰謀論呢!相信你亦不會袛關心教區的荷包吧?
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edward
Posted - 2002/5/3 下午 05:15:00
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高買即使成廦(kleptomania),受害者受的損失畢竟袛是財物。且偷竊廦者,多獲社會人士的同情。人們多認為孌童的受害者,有著深刻的心理和精神創傷。
我想歸一兄所說,令我們覺得「不輕鬆」之處是在於孌童行為在香港社會不為接受,甚至厭惡;教會沾上了這次風波,若未能恰當處理,輕則聲譽受損,重則可能面對各方指控而「一身蟻」。人們會聯想到:神父在心理上是否與別不同?還有多少同類的案件未遭揭發?教會的司鐸培訓、甚至行政方式,究竟有著哪些問題?
這場風波,多少會給我們帶來一定困擾。
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/3 下午 06:16:41
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I for one would not be that bothered - look, over a span of 27 years, 3 incidences.
What does this signify? I don't think the manner hitherto handled by the Diocese could be said to be 'improper' - one alleged victim said that his case wasn't even bothered by the Police. What does this reflect? The HSS asked him to report, but the Police said it was too long ago to dig up the matter.
I don't think the Diocese did anything to consciously 'cover up' the issue. If not for the US case, would the local media be SO ALERT?
If the 'sickness' was by some lay male teacher in say Government schools? (Who knows there weren't any?)
I would call upon all students or one time students to report to the "media" such cases of child sexual abuses!
IT WOULDN'T BE JUST 3, I'LL BET ON IT!
The media has this 'red guard' sentiment, that's all.
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Augustine
Posted - 2002/5/3 下午 06:44:57
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Precisely,
as I said the media always have their goal.
The only problem that (possibly) makes the Church accountable
is that: did they lure/cause the victims not to report to the police by money/persuasion...etc?
If not then the Church doesn't need to explain anything to anyone.
"如果是這樣,問題在哪裡呢".....根本只是兩個害群之馬,
加上傳播界反應太大.
"探究我們的'問題' "......其實三個bad examples in 27 years可以代表哪些問題?
有人企圖借醜聞抨擊神父禁慾的獨身生活:
下周日出版的天主教刊物,在評論版中引述《危機雜誌》(Crisis Magazine)一篇文章,題材正是現時鬧得沸沸揚揚的「戀童神父」。評論文章題為〈凌辱﹕事實與虛構〉(Abuse:Fact and Fiction),糾正一般人以為神父易有戀童癖的「聯想」。
文章引述一本名為《戀童癖與神父》的研究書籍指出,神父有戀童癖實屬罕見,只佔整體神職人員百分之零點三。報道又嘗試為醜聞平反,指被傳媒標籤有戀童癖的八十名神父中,只有四人裁定有罪。這項被譽為至今最全面的研究,是由非天主教徒學者所做。
source from:
http://hk.yahoo.com/headlines/020503/hongkong/mingpao/gag1txt.html
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edward
Posted - 2002/5/4 上午 06:54:11
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資料提供:
Final Communique from the Extraordinary Meeting between US Bishops on Sex-Abuse Scandals, Vatican
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/4 上午 11:21:13
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現今傳媒大都是'語不驚人死不休'一族,對操守置之度外,其實本身已'罪大惡極'。
我身為信徒,看報從來極之critical,近七八年更甚,因為這些報導偏差的,歪曲的,誤導人的,各種成份如五味架,一應俱全。
把香港的教會情況和美國的看齊,本身已不敢恭維;國情不同,社會文化不同,實際情形亦很不同,卻來胡亂的劃上個等號,這樣的accusation真的可以不理!
哪所男子學校的師生沒有這些情況?
哪所寄宿校舍沒有男孩們玩'捉虫虫'?這等同'戀童'?同性戀?在家中的小孩,父母給他們很大的安全了?多少家務助理性虐待小孩,他們又統計過沒有?這些小姐們還在帶小孩不?家長全部報警了不?領事館跟進了blacklisting不?
真是牙鷹不捕,卻來捕小雞。
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/6 上午 10:48:24
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先前提及的講道貼文:
One Priest's Answer to the Scandal
by Father Roger Landry
"He gave them power to cast out demons. He gave them power to cure the sick. They watched him work countless miracles. Yet, despite all of that, one of them was a traitor?" so says Father Roger Landry in his much sought homily.
March 20, 2002 / BOSTON, MA
To put perspective on the pedophilia scandals involving priests in the Boston Archdiocese and beyond, the Register is publishing an adapted excerpt from a recent homily by Father Roger Landry. A similar scandal saw the March 8 resignation of Bishop Anthony O´Connell in Palm Beach, Fla. Father Landry delivered this homily Feb. 3 at Espirito Santo, a parish Church in Fall River, Mass.
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The headlines this past week did not focus on the New England Patriots´ march to the Super Bowl, or on who would be Quarter Back, Drew or Tom, or even on the president's State of the Union address and his comment that there are many al-Qaida operatives in the U.S. like "ticking time-bombs."
None of these was the top story. The headlines were captured by the very sad news that perhaps up to 70 priests in the Archdiocese of Boston have abused young people whom they were consecrated to serve.
It's a huge scandal, one that many people who have long disliked the Church because of one of her moral or doctrinal teachings are using as an issue to attack the Church as a whole, trying to imply that they were right all along.
Many people have come up to me to talk about it. Many others have wanted to, but I think out of respect and of not wanting to bring up what they thought might be bad news, have refrained, but it was obvious to me that it was on their mind. And so, today, I'd like to tackle the issue head-on. You have a right to it. We cannot pretend as if it didn't exist. And I'd like to discuss what our response should be as faithful Catholics to this terrible scandal.
The first thing we need to do is to understand it from the point of view of our faith in the Lord. Before he chose his first disciples, Jesus went up the mountain all night to pray. He had at the time many followers. He talked to his Father in prayer about whom he would choose to be his Twelve Apostles, the Twelve he would himself form intimately, the Twelve whom he would send out to preach the Good News in his name.
He gave them power to cast out demons. He gave them power to cure the sick. They watched him work countless miracles. They themselves in his name worked countless others.
Yet, despite all of that, one of them was a traitor. One who had followed the Lord, who had had his feet washed by the Lord, who had seen him walk on water, raise people from the dead, forgive sinners, betrayed the Lord. The Gospel tells us that he allowed Satan to enter into him and then he sold the Lord for 30 pieces of silver, handing him over by faking a gesture of love.
"Judas," Jesus said to him in the garden of Gethsemane, "Would you betray the Son of Man with a kiss?" Jesus didn't choose Judas to betray him. He chose him to be like all the others. But Judas was always free, and he used his freedom to allow Satan to enter into him, and he ended up betraying God and getting him crucified and executed.
Remember the Eleven
So right from the first Twelve that Jesus himself chose, one was a terrible traitor. Sometimes God's chosen ones betray him. That's a fact that we have to confront. It's a fact that the early Church confronted. If the scandal caused by Judas were all that the members of the early Church focused on, the Church would have been finished before it even started to grow. Instead, the Church recognized that you don't judge something by those who don't live it, but by those who do. Instead of focusing on the one who betrayed, they focused on the other Eleven, on account of whose work, preaching, miracles, love for Christ, we are here today....
The media almost never focus on the good "Eleven," the ones whom Jesus has chosen who remain faithful, who live lives of quiet holiness. But we, the Church, must keep the terrible scandal that we've witnessed in its true and full perspective.
Scandal is unfortunately nothing new for the Church. There have been many times in the history of the Church when the Church was much worse off than it is now. The history of the Church is like a cosine curve, with ups and downs throughout the centuries. At each of the times when the Church hit its low point, God raised up tremendous saints to bring the Church back to its real mission. It's almost as if in those times of darkness, the Light of Christ shone ever more brightly. I'd like to focus a little on a couple of saints whom God raised up in these most difficult times, because their wisdom can really guide us during this difficult time.
What should our reaction be then? Two great saints who lived during difficult times can guide us in this our own difficult time. Once, St. Francis de Sales was asked to address the situation of the scandal caused by some of his brother priests during the 1500s and 1600s. What he said is as important for us today as it was for his listeners then.
He stated, "Those who commit these types of scandals are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder," destroying other people's faith in God by their terrible example. But then he warned his listeners, "But I'm here among you to prevent something far worse for you. While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal - who allow scandals to destroy their faith - are guilty of spiritual suicide."
They're guilty, he said, of cutting off their life with Christ, abandoning the source of life in the Sacraments, especially the Eucharist. He went among the people in Switzerland trying to prevent their committing spiritual suicide on account of the scandals. I'm here to preach the same thing to you.
What St. Francis Faced
Another great saint can help us further. St. Francis of Assisi lived in the 1200s, which was a time of terrible immorality in central Italy. Priests were setting terrible example. Lay immorality was even worse. St. Francis himself while a young man even gave some scandal to others, by his carefree ways.
But eventually he was converted back to the Lord, founded the Franciscans, helped God rebuild his Church and became one of the great saints of all time. Once one of the brothers in the Franciscans asked him a question. The brother was very sensitive to scandals.
"Brother Francis," he said, "What would you do if you knew that the priest celebrating Mass had three concubines on the side?" Francis, without missing a beat, said slowly, "When it came time for holy Communion, I would go to receive the sacred Body of my Lord from the priest's anointed hands."
What was Francis getting at? He was getting at a tremendous truth of the faith and a tremendous gift of the Lord. No matter how sinful a priest is, provided that he has the intention to do what the Church does - at Mass, for example, to change bread and wine into Christ's body and blood, or in confession, no matter how sinful he is personally, to forgive the penitent's sins - Christ himself acts through that minister in the sacraments.
Whether Pope John Paul II celebrates the Mass or whether a priest on death row for a felony celebrates Mass, it is Christ who himself acts and gives us his own body and blood. So what Francis was saying in response to the question of his religious brother that he would receive the sacred Body of his Lord from the priest's anointed hands is that he was not going to let the wickedness or immorality of the priest lead him to commit spiritual suicide.
Christ can still work and does still work even through the most sinful priest. And thank God! If we were always dependent on the priest's personal holiness, we'd be in trouble.
The Church's Response
And so, again, I ask, "What should the response of the Church be to these deeds?" There has been a lot of talk about that in the media. Does the Church have to do a better job in making sure no one with any predisposition toward pedophilia gets ordained? Absolutely. But that would not be enough.
Does the Church have to do a better job in handling cases when they are reported? The Church has changed its way of handling these cases, and today they're much better than they were in the 1980s, but they can always be perfected. But even that is not enough. Do we have to do more to support the victims of such abuse? Yes we do, both out of justice and out of love! But not even that is adequate.
Cardinal Law (currently head of the Boston Diocese) has gotten most of the deans of the medical schools in Boston to work on establishing a center for the prevention of child abuse, which is something that we should all support. But not even that is a sufficient response.
The only adequate response to this terrible scandal, the only fully Catholic response to this scandal - as St. Francis of Assisi recognized in the 1200s, and as countless other saints have recognized in every century- is holiness!
Every crisis that the Church faces, every crisis that the world faces, is a crisis of saints. Holiness is crucial, because it is the real face of the Church. There are always people - a priest meets them regularly, you probably know several of them - who use excuses for why they don't practice the faith, why they slowly commit spiritual suicide. It can be because a Nun was mean to them when they were 9. Or because they don't understand the teaching of the Church on a particular issue - as if any of these reasons would truly justify their lack of practice of the faith, as if any of them would be able to convince their consciences not to do what they know they should.
There will doubtless be many people these days - and you will probably meet them - who will say, "Why should I practice the faith, why should I go to Church, since the Church can't be true if God's so-called chosen ones can do the types of things we've been reading about?" This scandal is a huge hanger on which some will try to hang their justification for not practicing the faith. That's why holiness is so important. They need to find in all of us a reason for faith, a reason for hope, a reason for responding with love to the love of the Lord. The beatitudes which we have in today's Gospel are a recipe for holiness. We all need to live them more.
Do priests have to become holier? They sure do. Do religious brothers and sisters have to become holier and give ever greater witness of God and heaven? Absolutely. But all people in the Church do, including lay people! We all have the vocation to be holy and this crisis is a wake-up call.
Great Time for Priests
It's a tough time to be a priest today. It's a tough time to be a Catholic today. But it's also a great time to be a priest and a great time to be a Catholic. Jesus says in the beatitudes we heard today, "Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of slander against you falsely because of me. Be glad and rejoice, for your reward in heaven is great."
It's a great time to be a Christian, because this is a time in which God really needs us to show off his true face. In olden days in America, the Church was respected. Priests were expected. It's not so any more.
One of the greatest Catholic preachers in American history, Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, used to say that he preferred to live in times when the Church has suffered rather than thrived, when the Church had to struggle, when the Church had to go against the culture.
It was a time for real men and real women to stand up and be counted. "Even dead bodies can float downstream," he used to say, pointing that many people can coast when the Church is respected, "but it takes a real man, a real woman, to swim against the current." How true that is! It takes a real man and a real woman to stand up now and swim against the current that is flowing against the Church. It takes a real man and a real woman to recognize that when swimming against the flood of criticism, you're safest when you stay attached to the Rock on whom Christ built his Church. This is one of those times. It's a great time to be a Christian.
This is a time in which all of us need to focus ever more on holiness. We're called to be saints and how much our society here needs to see this beautiful, radiant face of the Church. You're part of the solution, a crucial part of the solution. And as you come forward today to receive from this priest's anointed hands the sacred Body of your Lord, ask him to fill you with a real desire for sanctity, a real desire to show off his true face.
A Time for Great Priests
One of the reasons why I'm here in front of you as a priest today is because while I was younger, I was under impressed with some of the priests I knew. I would watch them celebrate Mass and almost without any reverence whatsoever drop the Body of the Lord onto the paten, as if they were handling something with little value rather than the Creator and Savior of all, rather than my creator and savior.
I remember saying to the Lord, reiterating my desire to be a priest, "Lord, please let me become a priest, so I can treat you like you deserve!" It gave me a great fire to serve the Lord. Maybe this scandal can allow you to do the same thing.
This scandal can be something that can lead you down to the path of spiritual suicide, or it can be something that can inspire you to say, finally, "I want to become a saint, so that the Church can show your true face, O Lord, to the world, so that others might find in you the love and the salvation that I have found."
Jesus is with us, as he promised, until the end of time. He's still in the bark of Peter and will prevent its capsizing. Just as out of Judas´ betrayal, he achieved the greatest victory in world history, our salvation through his passion, death and resurrection, so out of this he may bring, and wants to bring, a new rebirth of holiness, a new Acts of the Apostles for the 21st century, with each of us - and that includes you - playing a starring role.
NOW's the time for real men and women of the Church to stand up. NOW's the time for saints. How do you respond?
Originally published by Zenit. All rights reserved.
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Josemaria
Posted - 2002/5/6 下午 12:26:30
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Some 'contstructive' critics say that Chancellor Rev. Lee should hold a press conference to clarify the issue together with the Police.
I would say that the faithful should hold a press conference jointly with the Diocese Curia to show them all that the Church still stands united.
What do brothers and sisters here think? Any Catholic orgnaisation leaders here?
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edward
Posted - 2002/5/6 下午 04:56:42
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The homily which Cecil mentioned can be viewed in the National Catholic Register homepage.
“The only adequate response to this terrible scandal, the only fully Catholic response to this scandal - as St. Francis of Assisi recognized in the 1200s, and as countless other saints have recognized in every century - is holiness!
"Every crisis that the Church faces, every crisis that the world faces, is a crisis of saints. Holiness is crucial, because it is the real face of the Church…”
這段說話的確很有意思。
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edward
Posted - 2002/5/6 下午 05:17:12
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今天的明報引述陳志明神父昨天在總堂主日彌撒的一段講道:
「『因醜聞放棄信仰,有如精神上自殺。』陳志明說,教會過去二千年歷史中,亦有不少黑暗時代,人民道德生活墮落,但同時亦有十六世紀的馬丁路德神父,改革當時腐敗的教育制度,並成立備受敬仰的耶穌會。」
究竟是神父講錯,抑或是記者記錯呢?
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人言
Posted - 2002/5/8 下午 10:18:21
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From: "Hsueh Bro.Thomas" <hsuehthomas@hotmail.com>
Subject: 轉載自教區視聽中心「講東講site」
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 13:48:37 +0000
Man:
請您千萬別被傳媒牽著鼻子走!在普通法統治下,
直到法院判決的一刻,被告依然無罪!
目前,該位兄弟雖被拘捕,始終仍未被審判,
傳媒卻一早公佈了個人資料,把他定了罪!
這是十分恐怖的手法!
對於另一個案,傳媒只聽電話投訢,
馬上公佈了該修士的資料,
但他本人及其上司已加以否認...
可是,連自認最有公信力的報章也一面倒地把他定了罪!
請問,萬一法律無法証實他兩人有罪,他兩如何活下去?
本人在大專已教授新聞傳播系凡十年,
對今日媒體的誇大及低劣手法,十分痛心!
可是更痛心的是見到不少文明香港人遵行雙重標準,
一方面罵報章渲染誇大,另一方面卻對其假消息深信不疑!
昨天,聖若翰堂的主任司鐸在感恩祭中向教友交代完事件後,
一位教友走出來發言,她說近期的傳媒指控已接近政治控訴,
如果教會沒有站出來支持無証居民,大概可以避過這場風波!
在太古城彌撒中心,兩位主祭的神父分別都真情流露,
深表歉意!楊神父哭了...
金神父說:<耶穌叫我們不要迷惑,
可是我目前十分迷惑...我最怕您們怕了我!>
金神父說完,教友主動拍手,以示支持!當時他十分感動!
各位姊妹兄弟,現在我們的牧者正被受非理性的審判---
如果連我們也跟風拿起石頭懲罰他們,我們還算是一家人嗎?
容若愚
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/9 上午 10:07:02
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傳媒審判是很可怖的事,社會人士又焉有不知之理?他們今日協著新聞自由,已近'無法無天',幾乎社會上所有的大機構,包括政府,都拿他們沒法。
這本身就是最不公義的事。
罵傳媒是於事無補,但信友們的信心和'人情'卻一定於事有補 - 各位大算怎樣表態,怎樣回應天父對我們表達信德的邀請,請大家不要輕易放過。
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/9 上午 10:27:56
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「『因醜聞放棄信仰,有如精神上自殺。』陳志明說,教會過去二千年歷史中,亦有不少黑暗時代,人民道德生活墮落,但同時亦有十六世紀的馬丁路德神父,改革當時腐敗的教育制度,並成立備受敬仰的耶穌會。」
依納爵羅耀拉除了天主教徒外,多不為外教人士認識(天主教徒也未必人人認識),這老記紀錄不來老作一個相熟的交差,不奇。
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艾慧詩
Posted - 2002/5/9 下午 08:40:00
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近幾日,許多人討論這事,也很關心教會及司鐸的形象受損,如何挽救公信力。但我同時也思考一個問題:「在這事上,誰是最小的兄弟?」當越來越多人關心教會形象的問題時,我擔心受害者的傷痛很容易被遺忘,被淡化,更令我憂慮的事,受害者更易被成為攻擊的對象(blaming the victim),他們公開事件的理由被質疑。神職的跌倒,會令我失望,但教會內(外)的人被侵犯,也令我心痛,再者,每當我想到這些「小兄弟」背負了多年甚至三十年的擔子也未能解除,便就更令我痛心,不是因為他們未能寬恕,而是我看到一些受傷的兄弟,仍未痊癒,仍在傷痛中掙扎,正在尋求眾人的援助。在這時,我們可為這些弱小的兄弟做些什麼?
只要我們愛我們最小的兄弟,基督的愛就能彰顯。
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/10 上午 10:14:56
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"貴學院的師姐之一何愛珠姐妹早前分享了她從事反虐兒工作的一些體驗,深慶本地社工界能有這樣的能人肩負這神聖而艱矩的工作,真是感謝天主!
教會對這大問題關注到那地步,可有人告知一二?"
這是我個多月前在另頁的貼文 - 教會對這專題實在有正視的必要。
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Cecil
Posted - 2002/5/10 上午 10:40:37
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8.05.2002 Newd:-
Tearful priest: 'I'm innocent'
May 8, 2002
BY CATHLEEN FALSANI RELIGION REPORTER
Saying he was standing up for all priests falsely accused of sexually abusing children, an Elmhurst pastor said Tuesday the Roman Catholic Diocese of Joliet was wrong to remove him from his ministry while it investigates sexual-abuse allegations against him.
"I don't think it's fair," said the Rev. John F. Barrett, pastor of Mary Queen of Heaven parish since 1966.
His comments marked the first time a Chicago area priest accused of abuse has come forward to defend himself since the clergy sex-abuse scandal began unfolding earlier this year.
The Joliet diocese said Sunday it was placing Barrett, 69, on "temporary administrative leave" while investigating allegations made in 1991 by a man, now 47, that Barrett abused him 34 years ago. The man was a student then at Notre Dame elementary school in Clarendon Hills.
"There is no truth to these accusations," a tearful Barrett, clutching a copy of the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin's memoir, The Gift of Peace, told reporters he called to the Oak Brook office of his lawyer. "I am innocent. My reputation has been tarnished, and I wonder how I am supposed to refute unsubstantiated and terribly false accusations."
Bernardin, who died in 1996, was accused in 1994 of sexually abusing a former Cincinnati seminarian in the 1970s. Bernardin's accuser, who was dying of AIDS, eventually stopped pursuing the allegations against the cardinal, saying he could no longer trust his memory.
"I was reading this book last night," Barrett said of Bernardin's memoir, "and I told my sisters, 'He stole all my lines.' I stand here for all the guys that are falsely accused."
His accuser, whose identity neither the diocese nor Barrett and his attorney would reveal, said he recalled the alleged sexual molestation during counseling years later, Barrett said.
"The allegation was made, and I was asked whether it was true, and I said no," Barrett said. "And they apparently tried to contact him and, to my understanding, he did not show up for the appointment."
A few years later, the man showed up at Barrett's parish "to try to get me to admit to something," Barrett said.
The priest's attorney, Aldo Botti, threatened Tuesday to sue the man for slander if he levels allegations against the priest again.
Neither Joliet Bishop Joseph Imesch nor Sister Judith Davies, sole spokesperson for the Joliet diocese, could be reached Tuesday. Since January, the suburban diocese has removed 10 priests accused of sexual misconduct with minors.
"I have talked to the bishop," Barrett said. "He was upset that these things had to happen, and he wished it could be otherwise, but he felt that the lawyers were telling him he had to do this. I feel very strongly that he is on my side."
About 75 parishioners gathered at Botti's office to show support for Barrett. Milt Honel of Elmhurst, a Mary Queen of Heaven parishioner, said he was critical of the American cardinals when they returned from Rome last week without a "zero-tolerance" policy for priests who abuse children. Then, he heard about Barrett. "Here I was very critical of the cardinals, yet when it's in our backyard and it's my pastor, I feel they should have been much more careful before they release stuff like this."
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Josemaria
Posted - 2002/5/10 上午 11:50:33
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這不是說'大''小'的厚此薄彼問題的時候 - 雙方都輸的時候,還爭論'最小的才是最大的'是自殺行為。
港人的心態是明顯得不能再明顯的"你死我活"心態 - win/lose。
他們沒有雙嬴的;要不,就擁抱著一同死 - 教會內的在這時候還有此等心態!
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艾慧詩
Posted - 2002/5/10 下午 10:56:42
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我想我並不是想爭論,只是我想基督的邀請是要我們關注弱小的兄弟--有需要的人,在這事上,最小的兄弟並不是指去衡量誰最小誰最大,這沒有意義,這只是外邦人討論的焦點,最小的兄弟可以是我們身邊有需要的人,可能是被侵犯者,也可以是我們的失落司鐸,可以是信友,可以是對教會有善意但失望的人.....所以牽涉中有需要的人可以很多,當然也可以很狹窄,很視乎我們的眼光.
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Augustine
Posted - 2002/5/10 下午 11:29:30
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column wrongly put here-should be at 代禱區
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edward
Posted - 2002/5/11 上午 08:05:44
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why?
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Augustine
Posted - 2002/5/11 上午 09:56:21
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I say I mistakenly posted my column here
It's now somewhere else
That 's all(I donno how to clear a whole column previously posted)
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