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Posted -
2001/4/14 上午 09:48:03

星期四晚不少堂區都行洗腳禮,其實洗腳禮源遠流長,又有聖經根據,而且是耶穌親手建立,比某幾件聖事,更加清楚地是耶穌建立的,為什麼洗腳禮不成為聖事呢?又或者請大家發表意見,覺得洗腳禮應否成為聖事呢?

cecilia aw


Posted -
2001/4/17 上午 11:32:35

我很想從另外一個角度來談,希望大家見諒 - 洗腳禮在香港地不大可以推廣,因為有極難斷尾的香港腳細菌, 如果不小心流入眼睛是會盲的。請各男教友及神職人員先正視這現實問題。

人言


Posted -
2001/4/17 下午 02:35:28

澄清:香港腳並不是男人專利,男女是平等的.

靚仔


Posted -
2001/4/17 下午 04:28:49

oh, 人言兄有所不知,她的堂區只准男士上台洗腳,雖然今年最後也有一名丈夫為他的妻子在台下洗腳.

cecilia aw


Posted -
2001/4/18 下午 12:24:07

不就是嗎? 不過, 女士們明年可以考慮modify 一下,改為洗臉,洗一洗面上花斑斑的油彩假象,對信仰也是有益的。

edward


Posted -
2001/4/23 下午 05:33:48

小弟以為歸一兄所問的,是「洗腳禮可否成為一件聖事?」。大家似乎是有點離題了。

洗腳〔禮〕是猶太(中東民族?)人的習俗。耶穌與門徒共晉逾越節晚餐時,也曾行過此禮,並囑咐門徒間,也要「彼此洗腳」。

若我們問:「洗腳是否一件聖事?」,相信我們要解決以下問題:

是否自初期教會以來,就一直有著「洗腳」?
「洗腳」這個有形的標記,賦予領受著甚麼恩寵?
若洗腳為一件聖事,那麼其有效條件是甚麼?它的施行人、領受人、形式和質料是甚麼?
以上三條問題的答案,在教會的歷史中,有那位教父的見證?

Josemaria


Posted -
2002/3/12 下午 06:05:22

Who is the actor for this feet washing?
Who are the recipients?
What is the format of this?
At Holy Thursdays' evening masses, the priest washes the feet of 12 men. Should recipients be restricted to just these 12, and the actor restricted to the priest?
Not necessarily.
So if other lay faithful become the actors, the act is non-sacramental, I suppose.
As to the format, so far, just feet washing and no other washing - since Christ told Peter that no other washing is necessary.

Cecil


Posted -
2002/4/2 上午 11:41:10

洗腳聖事 - 這建議有意思。
今年我參與的周四晚餐,就清一色強調這洗腳了,還找來'堂花'出馬為老先生老太太,各弟兄姐妹等洗,事完,上祭台分享.主禮問信眾:「靚女給你洗腳的滋味如何......」
建立聖體的主題當晚絕口不提,我還以為到了桑拿派對,連修院院長也眉頭謅了呀。

Josemaria


Posted -
2002/4/2 下午 12:04:22

It is of course alright for ladies to wash the feet of men. As far as the arrangement goes, I see nothing wrong with it, though I agree that one that particular occasion that you mentioned, the theme of the Lord's Super was missed by the congregation (you did the scripture reading, did you not, Cissie?). May be you should have suggested to Father that you give 'testimony' in the homily that evening, since you have did all the preparation for the scriptures that evening.
Well, I can share your disappointment, but do not be envious, that's all.

靚仔


Posted -
2002/4/2 下午 02:39:23

你本堂口花花,你閒時勸下他吧.
由年青的,為年長的服務是好事來的.
讓女子參與而非只讓男子專美也是好事吧.
所以由年輕女子為其他教友洗腳本身不見得有問題吧.
另外,湯主教聖週四在妳堂區?

Cecil


Posted -
2002/4/2 下午 02:55:03

靚兄可別嚇我,我近日心血少,心率不正,湯主教大概是在快活堂而不在小堂,那裡另有專人接待他老人家,小堂這裡,個人有分參與禮儀,卻給自家三十分而已,因為協調不到,讓領經的姐妹吃盡了'大師'的苦頭,我回家苦了整夜(我個人是完美主義的diehard信徒)。

靚仔


Posted -
2002/4/2 下午 05:06:32

我不知呀,你說修院院長也皺眉嘛.我以為湯主教去了你那處嘛.
啊,妳是否說院長修女呀?

Cecil


Posted -
2002/4/2 下午 06:05:10

Yea, Mother Superior.

Josemaria


Posted -
2002/4/4 上午 11:41:26

Anyone having their feet 'washed' before - how should this ceremony be done?
Pouring water, cleaning, and kissing? I think that's what most would do, isn't it?
Just 'wetting' the feet would not suffice, I suppose!

靚仔


Posted -
2002/4/4 下午 12:32:30

禮規好像無說要錫的,聖經也無說耶穌有錫門徒的腳, 當然錫不是有問題,只是不錫也沒問題吧了.

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