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靚仔


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2006/5/26 下午 03:39:53

新的主教公署通告說主教批准星期六下午三時舉行的特倫多彌撒被視為主日提前彌撒.

我的疑問是教區主教有這樣的權力嗎?
另外就算是主教有權,但可以在下午"光天化日"下做黃昏彌撒嗎?下午三時如何可以視為黃昏?香港全年也沒有一天的日落是早於三時的.這不是"指鹿為馬"嗎?這是甚麼樣的傳統?甚麼樣的禮儀神學?我就不懂了.

不要誤會小弟反對脫利騰彌撒,我不特別喜好,但並沒有反感,只是我覺得一些人一面說按規矩,跟傳統,卻有公然破壞傳統,破壞規矩,這真是可以增加神益嗎?

主日的意義還存在嗎?主日是主教定的日子,還是主的日子?

Ignatius


Posted -
2006/5/26 下午 03:53:11

除非該彌撒舉行時間改為日落後舉行,否則樞機此舉會惹來很大反響,因為樞機貴為禮儀聖事部的委員,恐怕難以服眾.

靚仔


Posted -
2006/5/26 下午 04:08:38

When evening Masses were first permitted in 1953, Pope Pius XII established the rule that they could not begin before 4:00 p.m. Although this law was intended for Masses of the day, not anticipated Masses, it shows the Holy See’s understanding of what constitutes the beginning of evening, an understanding that very likely was at least implicit when the 1983 code required that anticipated Masses be celebrated in the evening. Liturgically, the time for the anticipated Mass should not begin before the liturgical day commences with the celebration of first vespers of the Sunday or solemnity. Vespers is the evening prayer of the church, celebrated at some time in the evening. Liturgical Law speaks of evening as the time when “the day is already far spent;” a dominant theme of evening prayer is the setting sun and the approaching nightfall. The beginning of evening is associated with sunset, with the end of the day, with the approach of darkness. The church also celebrates the liturgy of the hours in the afternoon – mid-day and mid-afternoon, typically around noon and 3:00. Vespers is not an afternoon prayer; nor is an afternoon Mass an evening Mass.

Augustine


Posted -
2006/5/26 下午 05:41:43

Anticipated Sunday Mass at 1:30pm in Hong Kong, Chapel of Immaculate Heart of Mary, Central

Mitrophanes


Posted -
2006/5/26 下午 08:47:23

若质疑下午三点的"提前主日黄昏弥撒"是否合法(符合现时天主教法律)我就不能置喙了.若说这个做法反"传统",我就要不服了.
五十年代之前,天主教全年的"守夜礼仪(含弥撒)",全都是早上举行的,甚至至圣复活之夜的守夜也是早上举行的(甚至有早至清晨六点就开始者).要说指鹿为马,也不能说天主教就没有这个指鹿为马的"传统".

edward


Posted -
2006/5/26 下午 11:28:14

靚仔兄:

公教進行社亦有「甚早」的主日提前彌撒。

原因:菲籍英語教友人數眾多也。

若按照「傳統」,彌撒的舉行,應在大陽尚位於東面時舉行。大家「ad orientem」,以象徵教會「obviam Sponso」。

所以從前只會在主日早上舉行聖祭,過了中午則不舉行。復活節的「守夜」是讀聖經,要到天亮後才舉行聖祭。

當然,教難期間的安排往往差強人意。在現代,則是「牧民理由,至尊至大」。

julia


Posted -
2006/7/14 下午 12:07:39

想問,何為特倫多彌撒的提前主日彌撒採用的讀經,會與禮儀年的讀經不一樣的?

靚仔


Posted -
2006/7/15 上午 12:15:47

因為他們用的是舊的禮儀年曆,和現在的不同.

Cecil


Posted -
2006/7/17 下午 04:00:08

教廷經已關注到以特倫多彌補代替主日彌撒的問題了.
不久的將來聖座會有發表.

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