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Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤W¤È 12:51:55
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Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤W¤È 10:04:06
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Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤W¤È 10:07:25
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cecilia aw
Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤W¤È 11:30:43
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"DS 3917a: Decr. S. Officii, 2 Apr. 1955
De usu onanistico matrimonii ope instrumenti
The Sacred Congregation particularly raises its voice utterly to condemn and reject as intrinsically evil the application of pessaries (sterilet, diaphragm) by married couples in the exercise of their marital rights.
Furthermore, Ordinaries shall not permit the faithful to be told or taught that no serious objection may be made according to the principles of Christian law, if a husband cooperates materially only with his wife who uses such a device.
Confessors and spiritual directors who hold the contrary and thus guide the conscience of the faithful are straying far from the paths of truth and moral righteousness. "
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Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤U¤È 01:58:44
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Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤U¤È 01:59:52
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Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤U¤È 02:05:47
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cissie
Posted - 2001/2/27 ¤U¤È 03:09:52
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Posted - 2001/2/28 ¤W¤È 11:17:21
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Posted - 2001/2/28 ¤W¤È 11:35:04
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cecilia aw
Posted - 2001/2/28 ¤U¤È 12:23:11
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David ªº°ÝÃD¥irefer ¨ì"love and lust"¤@Äæ - ±B«Ã¸t¨ÆÀ³¦p¦ó²z¸Ñ¡C
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Posted - 2001/2/28 ¤U¤È 05:36:06
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Posted - 2001/3/1 ¤W¤È 10:07:57
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Posted - 2001/3/1 ¤W¤È 11:44:51
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