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Augustine
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2003/12/18 下午 03:03:32
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Knights of Southern Cross working with Freemasons
After 80 years of mutual suspicion between Catholics and Freemasons, the Knights of the Southern Cross will join Melbourne's Freemasons in their Dallas Brooks Hall home to "seal an unlikely bond".
The Herald-Sun reports that it will be the first time anywhere in the world that the Pope's flag has been carried into a Masonic assembly.
It says the "thawing in relations between the 'Grippers' (Masons) and the 'Micks' (Catholics)" has come because of a successful alliance to help the reconstruction of East Timor.
The Working Tools for East Timor Project brought together Masons, Catholics, Rotarians, the Country Fire Authority and other volunteers around Victoria to send 3.6 million tools to the war-ravaged country.
Bishop Hilton Deakin (pictured) described the project as "a powerful means of healing long-standing divisions of prejudice and misunderstanding within the Australian community".
Wednesday night's public show of unity was decided on in a departure lounge at Adelaide airport last month after a discussion between the Grand Master of Freemasons Victoria, John Evans, and the chairman of the Catholic Knights of the Southern Cross, Colin Walsh.
The two men had shared a life-changing experience in East Timor, where they attended the handover of tools to East Timor's President, Xanana Gusmao. First lady Kirsty Sword Gusmao will attend Wednesday night's recognition function for sponsors, volunteers and members of the public.
Mr Evans and Mr Walsh believe the public show of solidarity will bury 80 years of prejudice and suspicion between two groups.
"This is a big breaking of the barriers," said Mr Walsh, who heads more than 5000 Knights in Victoria. "I'm taking a bit of heat on it, surprisingly from some younger members, but a small minority isn't going to stop us.
"This breakthrough has been as welcome for us as it has been for the thousands in East Timor who were crying out for tools."
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Augustine
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2003/12/18 下午 03:05:00
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Declaration on Masonic Associations
Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
It has been asked whether there has been any change in the Church's decision in regard to Masonic associations since the new Code of Canon Law does not mention them expressly, unlike the previous code.
This sacred congregation is in a position to reply that this circumstance is due to an editorial criterion which was followed also in the case of other associations likewise unmentioned inasmuch as they are contained in wider categories.
Therefore, the Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and, therefore, membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful, who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.
It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the declaration of this sacred congregation issued Feb. 17,1981. [1]
In an audience granted to the undersigned cardinal prefect, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved and ordered the publication of this declaration which had been decided in an ordinary meeting of this sacred congregation.
Rome, from the Office of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Nov. 26, 1983
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger Prefect
Father Jerome Hamer, O. P. Titular Archbishop of Lorium
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Augustine
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2003/12/18 下午 03:07:38
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It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above.
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Cecil
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2003/12/18 下午 03:11:02
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我們在堅尼地道1號進餐可有犯規?
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Cecil
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2003/12/19 上午 10:56:41
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Addendum - No. 1 Kennedy Road Hong Kong is the address of the Zetland Hall, the Freemasonry organisation in HK.
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Augustine
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2003/12/22 下午 04:02:41
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Dinning at a masonic organization could be dangerous. Unless you keep a distance from them.
Any catholics who join a masonic organiztion is automatically excommunicated.
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Cecil
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2003/12/23 下午 12:20:32
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Wowwwwwww,this is no joke...I know some Catholics (practising) ones. They are members of the Zetland Hall. You are serious, are you?
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Ignatius
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2003/12/23 下午 02:53:14
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你們是否指共濟會？
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靚仔
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2003/12/23 下午 05:02:12
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是的依納爵,是共濟會.
施施姐,吃飯問題應不大.
在罪人家中吃飯是基督徒的"傳統",不代表我們會成為罪人.
明知胡犯是為罪,如不知共濟會是甚麼東東而胡里胡塗入了會是否"自科"絕罰,我有點猶豫.當然明知教會立場而做的,那這個絕罰就走不了.
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靚仔
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2003/12/23 下午 05:04:22
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好像他們較活躍於政府內,我認識和他們有關的人都是公務員,不大見到有其他人士.
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Augustine
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2003/12/23 下午 06:49:06
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"Those who give their name to (who are members of) the Masonic sect, or other societies of the same nature, that scheme against the Church or lawful civil authority, ipso facto (automatically)contract excommunication [the absolution from which is] reserved to the Holy See." (Canon 2335, 1917 Code of Canon Law)
"Therefore, the Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and, therefore, membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful, who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion."...(Declaration on Masonic Associations CDF Nov 1983)
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Cecil
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2003/12/24 上午 09:49:16
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真的不是笑話來了!
不知者多,又要培育了.
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Mitrophanes
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2003/12/24 下午 03:31:32
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這也不奇怪。這一切都是在為ANTICHRISTUS的王朝做預備。在將來有一天﹐許多的“基督徒”包括來自天主教﹐聖公會以及各個“主流教會”(甚至也免不了來自正教的)﹐都會和馬嵩黨﹐詛咒基督的猶太人(熙雍主義者)﹐各種的異端邪教﹐以"博愛“”萬教合一“”人類大同“之類的理念攜手共進。然後不管是明知故意還是身不由己﹐這些人都將在頭上和手上接受那惡獸的標記和數字﹐最終成為Antichristus的臣民。
其實看看最近的歷史﹐兩次世界大戰﹐以色列復國﹐美國霸權的興起﹐最近發生在伊拉克的戰爭﹐甚至活躍在我們身邊的New Ages﹐都是在指向同一個目標﹕”敗壞正信﹐為Antichristus的統治鋪路。
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Augustine
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2003/12/25 下午 02:49:42
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"There will come a time when they will not endure sound doctrine but having itching ears, will heap up to themselves teachers according to their own lusts, and they will turn away from the hearing from the truth and turn aside rather to fables."
II Tim. 4:1-5
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Big5
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2004/5/20 下午 01:24:35
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羅馬萬歲！羅馬萬歲！羅馬萬歲！羅馬萬歲！請大家專重羅馬宗教裁判所的決定，口快講錯，I mean信理部。
CIC都說明了作為共濟會member 是不許的，所以連堅尼地道也不要走近。聖若瑟書院的學生及畢業生也請小心。自科絕罰bor，真的不是講笑！澳洲的教會人士去跟共濟會合作，即是參加了共濟會LOR，咁簡單的LOGIC 咁都不明？又要信理部下宗教裁判？若有疑問，心中唱多幾次Christus Vincit然後去長沙灣參加拉丁彌撒。
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Big5
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2004/5/20 下午 01:26:08
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標題都講明：WALKING WITH FREE MASONS! 同行者bor，仲不是出賣自己的靈魂？
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